@isasv (And I think that’s enough to sort of force wider the range of things that pass for normal, in a positive way… but also, as we’re being rudely reminded these days, in a negative one. People literally “feel no shame” for rebuking consensus reality.”) @isasv The key is that really a balance between the two is probably better, but societies seem to often go to extremes one way or the other, and this leads to differing social ills depending on which pattern you’re stuck in.